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Robert Bunn 1622

Can someone give me a sense of what the numerous mentions of tobacco pipes (especially on page 368) refers to please? I can see that Robert Bunn is also mentioned as a musketeer in the company of Sir John Ogle but is there any other information regarding his pipemaking?

Thank you.

Reacties (10)

Peter zei op do, 02/18/2021 - 09:46

Sorry, the second image doesn't seem to have loaded

René van Weeren zei op do, 02/18/2021 - 12:56

Just had a quick look. It appears that the document is an agreement between Robert Bunn and midshipsmen (adelborst) Abraham de Ruytter. Robert acknowledges to be in debt for 170 guilders and 16 stuivers and promises to repay this amount to Abraham de Ruytter in 5 equal portions, a protion to be paid every 3 months. The debt is for the purchase of a large amount of tobacco. Robert guarantees the payment by setting his quarters and belomgins as collateral, hence the inventory on the second page.

Peter zei op do, 02/18/2021 - 15:00

Thank you Rene - that is very helpful.

Peter zei op do, 02/18/2021 - 15:11

I would be grateful if someone could transcribe the list of goods on p.368 for me, especially the part which lists the tobacco pipes. Thank you.

René van Weeren zei op do, 02/18/2021 - 15:28

Will do so later this evening or tomorrow morning.

Peter zei op za, 02/20/2021 - 21:24

Thank you René, that would be brilliant.

René van Weeren zei op za, 02/20/2021 - 23:53

Full transcription will follow, but here's already the inventory part

 

Vijff ^tijcke^ bedden

Vijff pueluwen

Vijff oorcussens

Thien slaeplaeckens

Vijff deeckens soo Engelse als Spaense

Drie kisten met tabackxpijpen ende

noch veertich gros tabacxpijpen in de v[er]sz[eyde]

huysinge berustende

Acht tonnen omme tabacqpijppen te maecken

Drie schroeven

Thien tinne platteele, soo groot als

cleyn

Een wageschotte kist

Een coffer met leer becleet

Een mantel met een pack manskleederen

van gekoleurt Engels laecken

Een ijsere kacchel ofte stove

 

EN

5 pillow-slips

5 head cushions

5 earpillows

10 bed sheets

5 blankets, both English and Spanish

3 crates containing tobacco pipes as well as

another 40 oarties of 144 tobacco pipes laying in

the aforementioned house

8 barrels for the purpose of manufacturing tobacco pipes

3 screwes

10 tin plates, both large and small

1 crate made out of fine oak wood

1 trunk, leather-clad

1 mantel with a bundle of men's clothes

of couloured English wool

1 iron furnace or stove

Peter zei op zo, 02/21/2021 - 10:29

Thanks René, this is really appreciated and very helpful.

Peter

René van Weeren zei op ma, 02/22/2021 - 01:00

Compareerden op huyden den IIIIen januari

anno XVIc^twee^ en twinttich voor mijn, Jan van

Aller Andriessen, notaris publycq, bij den Hove van

Holland geadmitteert, residerende binne de stede

Rotterdam, ende de getuygen hiernaer ghenoemt,

Robbert Bon, musquettier onder de compagnie

van den colonel Ogle, in garnisoen leggende

binnen deser stede, dewelcke bekende wel

ende deuchdel[ijck] schuldich te wesen Abraham

de Mijtter, adelborst onder de compagnie

van den cap[i]t[eyn] Canneloen, mede in garnisoen

leggende alhier, coste sijnnes actie, v[er]crijgende

de somma van hondert ende tseventich caorl[us]

g[u]l[den] sestien stuy[ver]s, spruyttende ^ten deelle^

van geleende pennin[gen], ende ten deele van

taback bij hem comp[aran]t van de v[er]sz[eyde] De

Mijtter gecoft ende t'sijnnen contentemente ontfangen,

daervan hij comp[aran]t bekent op dito metten

voorz[eyde] De Mijtter te hebben affgereeckent

ende gelquideert, welcke v[er]sz[eyde] somme van

hondert ende tseventich carol[us] g[u]l[den] sestien stuy[ver]s

hij comp[aran]t heeft beloof, soo als hij beloof bij

desen aen den v[er]noemde De Mijtter ofte sijnner

actie v[er]crijgende te sullen betaelen van huyden

date deses te reckenen in vijff eerstcomende

achtereenvolgende vierendel jaers, bij egale

portien ende gedeelten, sonder eenich langer

v[er]treck, v[er]bindende hij comp[aran]t tot

v[er]seckerheyt van den v[er]noemden De Mijtter

special[ijck] dese sijnne[n[ comp[aran]ts naedraegende

goederen, dewelcke jegenwoordich berustende

---

sijn in de huysinge / daerinne

hij comp[aran]t jegenwoordich woonnen[de] is#

#staende ende geleghen / achter de brouwerije van de /

Swarte Leeuw in de / Wijnstraet alhier

gelijcken / als hier naer specifice sijn gestelt ende

volgen

Vijff ^tijcke^ bedden

Vijff pueluwen

Vijff oorcussens

Thien slaeplaeckens

Vijff deeckens soo Engelse als Spaense

Drie kisten met tabackxpijpen ende

noch veertich gros tabacxpijpen in de v[er]sz[eyde]

huysinge berustende

Acht tonnen omme tabacqpijppen te maecken

Drie schroeven

Thien tinne platteele, soo groot als

cleyn

Een wageschotte kist

Een coffer met leer becleet

Een mantel met een pack manskleederen

van gekoleurt Engels laecken

Een ijsere kacchel ofte stove

Belovende als man met eeren alle de t'v[er]sz[eyde]

goederen tot v[er]seeckerheyt van den v[er]sz[eyde] De Mijtter

tot sijnder v[er]maninge in sijnnen handen te leveren

ende bij foute vandien dat den selven De Mijtter

sal v[er]mogen alle deselve goederen uut sijnnen huyse

te doen halen ende tot v[er]seeckerheyt van hem te

brengen tot soodanigen plaetse als 't hem gelieven

---

sal, sonder eenich figeur van rechten

te gebruycken, ende deselve onder hem behouden

omme bij foute van betalinge deselve goederen

als pant metter minne v[er]onderpant te mogen

v[er]cooppen# ende sijnne betalinge / daeraf prosequeren

sonder hem ges[eyd?]e voor den gerechte

alhier te betrecken, omme te sien concluderen

dat deselve goederen voor zijn achterloesen

v[er]claert souden worden v[er]bonden ende executabel

te wesen, v[er]bindende wijders sijnne comp[aran]ts

p[er]soon ende general[ijck] alle sijnne goederen,

egeene uutgesondert, stellende de selve

subject allen rechten ende rechtens. Ende

te laetsten, / soo bekende hij comp[aran]t mede

dat alle soodanige tabacqaerde als in

sijnne comp[aran]ts huysinge jegenwoordich leggen[de]

is, bedragende in waerde wel ter somme van

vierdalff hondert carol[us] g[u]l[den], dat de selve in

eygendomme is competerende den [ver]noemde De

Mijtter, sonder dat hij comp[aran]t daerop yet ter

werelt heef te pretenderen, maer allenl[ijck] onder

hem comp[aran]t berusten omme tabacqpijppen

voor den v[er]noemde De Mijtter daervan te

maecken, ende consenteerde hij comp[aran]t

mijn, notaris, hiervan te expedieren een

acte in forma. Aldus gedaen ten tijde

v[er]sz[eyt] ten comptoire mijns notari, ter presentie

van Jan Jansszen, laeckenbereyder, ende

#Lucas Marcheliss / hoe[den]stoffeerder, inwoonders

deser stede als getuygen nevens mijn, notario,

hier toe geregt.

[getekend: Robert Bonn]

[getekend: Jan Jans]

[getekend: Lucas Mesoeres]

[getekend: J: v: Aller Andriessen / 1622]

_____

EN

On this day, the 4th of January

in the year 1622, before me, Jan van

Aller Andriessen, public notary admitted by the Court of

Holland, residing within the city of

Rotterdam, and before the witnesses mentioned underneath,

has appeared Robbert Bon, musketeer in the army company

of colonel Ogle, garrisoned

within this city, who acknowledged to be well

and properly indebted to Abraham

de Mijtter, naval cadet in the company

of captain Canneloen, also garrisoned

here, the costs of his transaction, acquiring

a sum of 170 carolus guilders

and 16 stuy[ver]s, for one part originating from

money borrowed, and for another part because of

tobacco, bought by the appeared from the aforementioned De

Mijtter and received to his satisfaction,

of which the appearer acknowledges also to have

completed and liquidated this transaction with the aforementioned De Mijtter,

which aforementioned sum of

170 carolus guilders 16 stuivers

the appearer has promised, as he also promises by this document

to pay to the aforementioned De Mijtter or any person acquiring De Mijtter's

part of this transaction as of this current

date, this to be divided into payments of equal protions and parts,

each to be paid within the next 5 year's quarters, without any delay.

To assure the aforementioned De Mijtter of this, the appearer has specifically

set as collateral the appearer's belongings mentioned underneath,  

which belongings are currently

---

in the house where the appearer currently is living,

located and situated behind the brewery called

Swarte Leeuw in the street called Wijnstraet in this town,

just like as is specified below

5 pillow-slips

5 head cushions

5 earpillows

10 bed sheets

5 blankets, both English and Spanish

3 crates containing tobacco pipes as well as

another 40 oarties of 144 tobacco pipes laying in

the aforementioned house

8 barrels for the purpose of manufacturing tobacco pipes

3 screwes

10 tin plates, both large and small

1 crate made out of fine oak wood

1 trunk, leather-clad

1 mantel with a bundle of men's clothes

of couloured English wool

1 iron furnace or stove

[The appearer] promising as a man of honour to deliver all aforementioned

goods to deliver to the hands of the aforementioned De Mijtter as means of insurance

in order to be reminded of his due payments

and in case of non-payment, the same [De Mijtter]

will be allowed to have all these goods to be removed from his home

and to be brought to any location he pleases to act as means of insurance

---

without using any judicial vigour,

and to keep the same goods with him,

in order to sell these - in case of mispayment -

as collaterals and to cash his payments

without having to sue him in court

in order to be concluded that these goods would be

collateral and therefore allowed to be sold for the due payments.

Furthermore the appearer sets as guarantee personnally and in general

all his belongings (none excluded) that he legally owns or that are legally his.

Finally, the appearer acknowledges that

all the tobaccosoil currently

lying in the home of the appearer,

worth 350 carolus guilders, is

owned by the aforementtioned De

Mijtter, without the appearer having any legal pretense to this,

but to use it to manufacture tobacco pipes for the aforementioned,

and the appeared agreed to

me, as notary, to expedite

a deed in legal form. Hence was done at the aforementioned

date at my notarial office, in the presence of

witnesses Jan Jansszen, woolen-cloth preparer and

Lucas Marcheliss, upholsterer of hats, inhabitants of

this city, who just like me, notary, have been authorized to do so

[signed: Robert Bonn]

[signed: Jan Jans]

[signed: Lucas Mesoeres]

[signed: J: v: Aller Andriessen / 1622]

 

Peter zei op ma, 02/22/2021 - 11:00

Thank you again. The extra information explains the slightly odd 'Acht tonnen omme tabacqpijppen te maecken' in that the tuns belonged to Bunn but the clay belonged to de Mijtter. Looks like he was gambling everything in the pursuit of a big profit from the wholesale tobacco trade. It seems it was a venture he didn't repeat.

It is always nice when you get references to things like 'Drie schroeven' as it gives an indication of the size of the business.

Thank you once again for all your help - you're most kind.

 

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