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1650- 3 deeds all with the same date?

There are 3 deeds which are dated  28 September 1650 and all include Jan Harmensz van Dijssel.

The first deed, attached is titled 'revocation (property law).

The second deed is titled 'insinuation (semi-procedural)- 

The third deed is titled 'settlement (property law).

I have no idea what this all means and what role Jan Harmensz van Dijssel played in it, but it would be very interesting to know. This was the year his wife Clausgen Huigen died (in August 1650)- I don't know if that's anything to do with the above?

Any help much appreciated, as always, unravelling this mystery :-)

Anne

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Anne zei op wo, 10/29/2025 - 20:34

Deed 2

Anne zei op wo, 10/29/2025 - 20:34

Deed 3

René van Weeren zei op do, 10/30/2025 - 11:02

Dear Anne,

No full transcription yet, but a very brief summary. First of all, please note that the order should be:

Deed 3 - a deed where Maertgen Pieters, daughter of the late Pieter Maertensz and the late Claesge Huygen, declared to have fully received from her stepfather Jan Harmensz van Dijsel the part of the inheritance she was entitled to according to the last will of her deceased parents; notable is that, according to the other deeds, this deed was composed by the notary at her request about midnight

Deed 1 - in this deed Maertgen Pieters states that she has been deceived by her stepfather Jan Harmensz van Dijsel regarding the inheritance part from her late parents and she therefore revokes Deed 3

Deed 2 - this is only a procedural deed that in which is stated that the notary will go to the house of Jan Harmensz van Dijsel and will announce the revocation to him or to a member of his family living there; the bottom part of this deed reports that this announcement has been made by the notary.

Intriguing documents, once we will have a full transcription of the texts (unfortunately lack of time to do that now), this will clarify what exactly has happened between Maertgen and her stepfather...

Anne zei op do, 10/30/2025 - 13:09

Oh my goodness Rene- what on earth is going on here?!

Many thanks for the initial summary as always which makes fascinating reading.

Meanwhile I'll try and work out how Maertgen Pieter's fits into the family tree of van Dijssel, as maybe that will help too.

I'll report back if I find any further information.

very best wishes

Anne

 

René van Weeren zei op do, 10/30/2025 - 15:03

Dear Anne,

Had a closer look at Deed 1: the issue is that it appeared to Maertgen that she was entitled to a legal inheritance part far larger than the 100 guilders and goods she had received via her stepfather Jan Harmensz van Dijsel; if I read it correctly (but I must say I only had a glance on it), she discovered that she was entitled to as much as 6 times the inheritance she had received...

In the bottom part of Deed 2, the notary stated that he went to Jan Harmensz van Dijsel's home, but did not find him there. Instead, he delivered the message about the revocation of Deed 3 to Fijtgen Pieters, who was caretaker of Van Dijsel's home.

Anne zei op do, 10/30/2025 - 18:20

Hi Rene

Gosh the plot thickens as we say :-)

What's really puzzling is that I have the marriage of Jan Harmensz van Dijssel and Claesgen Huigen in 1633 in Delft. It states he is a jm from Rotterdam, and she is a jg from Gasthuislaan- which is surely a mistake as she was a widow by then?

I'm attaching a copy of the church record just to double check. There seems to be writing on the left hand side of the page- I'm not sure if that's relevant ?

Thanks for all your help which is very much appreciated :-)

Anne

 

René van Weeren zei op do, 10/30/2025 - 21:27

Dear Anne,

It is interesting indeed. Looking at the premarriage registration: are you certain this indeed concerns Jan Harmensz van Dijssel and Claesge Huygen? I am asking this because the family name of Jan Harmensz is missing and the names of both the bride- and groom-to-be were quite common in this time; is there a possibility this is a different couple?

The mentioning on the left is ut supra, referring to the marginal note with the preceding registration on this page, which states: getr(out) 9 decemb(er) 1633 [married on 9 December 1633].

Anne zei op vr, 10/31/2025 - 18:14

Hi Rene

Yes I shared your misgivings initially and if fact didn't register this event for Petronella van Dijssel for a long time.

2 things changed my mind. Firstly there are a series of (fantastic) books about individual pottery factories written by Hoekstra Klein with a huge number of Dutch experts. In the book 'De Lamptken' which I saw in the library in Den Haag she noted the name of Jans Harmensz van Dijssel's wife as 'Clasgen Huygen'.

The book also contained reference to a deed from 1664  which acknowledged that  Huych Jansz van Dijssel, and the husband's of Geertgen and Petronella Jans van Dijssel, all children of Claesgen Huygen,   had been paid by their father Jan Harmensz van Dijssel their maternal goods in accordance with the will of 1645. 

I found Huych Jansz baptism in 1634- father Jans Harmensz , mother Clasege Huijghen, and on both Geertgen's and Petronella's baptism records the father was always just referred to as Jans Harmensz. Even on his wife's burial in 1650 he was referred to as Jan Harmensz Schipr. It seems that only on legal documents his full name was given.

So on the balance of probability I think the marriage is for Petronella's parents.

I've found a couple more documents- a brief entry from the orphanage page in Delft, 1650, and a deed from 1655 - a will by Huijch Jansz van Dijssel,(testator- as is Claesgen Huijgen) with Fietgen Pietersdr as heir (the same women keeping Jans Harmensz house in the deed of 1650?- she would be a step sister to Huijch, concerning a ship called The Great Genoese, in Amsterdam.

Will post both later just to see if it helps untangle this family's connections :-)

very best wishes

Anne

 

 

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