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Marriage 1625- date and place?

This record concerns Claes Jansz (potter) and Ariaantge Jansdr and their marriage.

Partly the record says the marriage was 15 Nov? and part says 7 Dec 1625. 

The register also states 'marginal note where marriage performed or where certificate issued'.

I can't see any information on the above, but I have a feeling this couple may be Catholic, hence why they're not recorded in Delft old church for marriages.

This is the URL that should lead to the right entry (No 6).

Thanks for any help unravelling this mystery.

Anne

https://hdl.handle.net/21.12115/NL-DtAD20457359

 

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Geert Ouweneel zei op ma, 04/27/2026 - 14:29

The date is 15 November 1625.
The other numbers are a serial number.


Den 15e November 1625

number 6
Claes Jansz plateelbacker, jongeselle, wonende in de
Cruystraet
Ariaentgen Jans, jongedochter, wonende opte beestenmarct.

René van Weeren zei op ma, 04/27/2026 - 15:37

Some additional info: the registration you referred to above, Anne, was the registration of their notice of marriage ('ondertrouw') before the magistrate. Remarkably, they also did so before the church authorities on 30 November, after which they married a week later, on 7 December, in church. See https://hdl.handle.net/21.12115/NL-DtAD20586073 and the image attached (3rd from the top). The registration does not contain any further info on the engaged apart from the info already mentioned in the earlier registration.

René van Weeren zei op ma, 04/27/2026 - 15:37

Sorry, 4th from top

Anne zei op ma, 04/27/2026 - 16:29

Dear Geert and Rene

Thank you both very much for all the information.

That explains why the record said November and December for the wedding date.

Do either of you know why a couple would register their wedding both before the magistrate and also before the church? Could it be that one or both of them were not citizens of Delft?

warmest best wishes to you both.

Anne

Marcel Verolme zei op di, 05/05/2026 - 17:51

The most likely reason (but not guaranteed) is that one of them belonged to the Dutch Reformed Church (the dominant and more-or-less State-sponsored church) and the other did not. The other partner may have been catholic or mennonite. It's typically not related to their place of residence however if bride and groom did live in different towns, banns would be published in both places.

Anne zei op di, 05/05/2026 - 18:04

Dear Marcel

Thank you for your suggestion, which is very interesting.

Ariaantge made her confirmation, along with her daughter in Delft church in 1659, which does tend to suggest she wasn't a member of the Dutch Reformed Church before that date.

very best wishes

Anne

Marcel Verolme zei op di, 05/05/2026 - 21:03

Anne,

I noticed from this and other posts you made on this forum that you are researching the De la Rue/Verstraeten/Van Straeten family. About 25 years ago, I helped my brother-in-law's (now late) sister to research their family history: they are Van Straatens and direct line descendants of Willem Jansz de la Rue (Verstraeten). I have an article that was published about this line called "NAAMREEKS VERSTRATEN - VAN STRAATEN Een plateelbakkersgeslacht te Delft en Haarlem" by L.J. Buitenhuis, Drs. J.H. van Eis and F.M. van Eis-van der Waals. It only covers Willem and his descendants and mentions his possible brothers Claes, Adriaen, and Adam. If this is of interest to you I'm happy to provide it. Not sure if the forum allows me to upload something of this nature, but I can also send through email (just reach out to me via my firstname.lastname at gmail.com).

Best,

Marcel

Anne zei op di, 05/05/2026 - 21:12

Marcel

That sounds wonderful- it's really kind of you to make the offer and I'd love to read the article.

I don't think we can share such material on this Forum, so I'll do as you suggest and email you directly.

Thanks again.

Anne

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